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Sterilized / Hysterectomy
[edit]Should her entry mention that her husband, Mike Todd, had her sterilized?
The IMDb entry of her daughter, Liza Todd, mentions this:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0123654/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
As does an Express UK article (spelled sterilised):
https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/237051/How-Elizabeth-Taylor-lived-life-to-the-full
The above article also states that her sterilization led her to adopt her fourth child, Maria.
Neither article mentions if she was given any say in the matter, and husbands back then could unilaterally decide things like this, so she may have been unwillingly sterilized.
It may also be worth noting that hysterectomies have been linked to higher rates of heart disease, which was the cause of Liz Taylor's death, and also back pain (which afflicted Liz Taylor):
https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/hysterectomy-linked-to-increase-in-heart-disease
https://www.hersfoundation.org/2011/03/elizabeth-taylor-was-also-one-in-three-women/ (note that this is a third source mentioning her sterilization)
This page states that her hysterectomy was a decade after Liza Todd's birth -- well after Mike Todd was dead, and also after the adoption of her fourth child, Maria -- but she may have been sterilized first by some method other than hysterectomy at the direction of Mike Todd, then received the hysterectomy a decade later:
https://www.khou.com/article/entertainment/elizabeth-taylor-spent-a-life-in-and-out-of-hospitals/285-320708562 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:ACA4:1100:D98F:94DB:6FFD:909 (talk) 05:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Point of order: The Express article does not say husband Mike Todd "had her sterilized". It says "Taylor had been sterilised by 1964 after Liza’s difficult birth..." your description strongly implies a lack of agency, and coersion.
- Your comment includes a lot of speculation. You wrote she may have been forced. Well, speculation, on the part of RS, can merit a place in articles. But would have to be properly attributed to the RS doing the speculation. Neither my speculation or your speculation belongs in article space.
- Coverage of this requires compliance with WP:UNDUE. If RS hardly touch it, it probably merits very little coverage. Geo Swan (talk) 20:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Casa Kimberly
[edit]Should Casa Kimberly be linked or mentioned anywhere in the article? ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:27, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Hypertrichosis
[edit]This might have come up before, but is there a reason why Taylor's reported hypertrichosis hasn't been mentioned in the section about her early life? - Jack Sebastian (talk) 04:17, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
removal and personal stuff
[edit]please remove the "Throughout her career, Taylor's personal life was the subject of constant media attention. She was married eight times to seven men, converted to Judaism, endured several serious illnesses, and led a jet set lifestyle, including assembling one of the most expensive private collections of jewelry in the world. After many years of ill health, Taylor died from congestive heart failure in 2011, at the age of 79." but also remove the other mention of conversion also please remove the religion she and other celebs were born to since religion is a private thing so do the same for the other celebs by removing the religion they converted to and the one they were born to 2607:FEA8:4260:C100:8C38:3169:A4C7:996F (talk) 22:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
dont forget please
[edit]please dont forget to remove "Throughout her career, Taylor's personal life was the subject of constant media attention. She was married eight times to seven men, converted to Judaism, endured several serious illnesses, and led a jet set lifestyle, including assembling one of the most expensive private collections of jewelry in the world. After many years of ill health, Taylor died from congestive heart failure in 2011, at the age of 79." but also remove the other mention of conversion also please remove the religion she and other celebs were born to since religion is a private thing so do the same for the other celebs by removing the religion they converted to and the one they were born to 2607:FEA8:4260:C100:35DB:E88:CF22:6297 (talk) 02:45, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- No. Don't forget? Your fellow editors are not here to craft Wikipedia to your liking. You mean censor known facts out of a Wikipedia article about a world-famous person? Are you serious? That would be POV-editing. That a single editor finds certain information distasteful is immaterial if multiple reliable sources contain such information - such as Taylor's conversion to Judaism. Her conversion was done openly and publicly and she was not ashamed of it, so neither should Wikipedia censor it. And her personal life - her marriages, her divorces, her jewelry, her support of AIDS charities, and so on - are all well documented. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and Wikipedia is not censored. - Shearonink (talk) 04:52, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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